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BerichtGeplaatst: Wo Nov 15, 2006 5:32 pm    Onderwerp: New column yoke Reageren met citaat

Since I cannot post a reply directly under the "News" section, I will respond overhere.

About the new upcoming yoke column:

1. Will this unit have a hat switch (or a similar swith) so that you can "see" in different directions? (e.g. right now I have the CH yoke, and when I'm using the 2D cockpit, I can "look" in different directions by using the hat switch).

2. Can this unit be used as a standalone unit? (i.e. you don't have to build it into a complete cockpit). And does it have a solid base, so you can position it on the floor?

3. Will this unit be compatible with PMDG and Wilco's 737 Pilot in Command?
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BerichtGeplaatst: Wo Nov 15, 2006 6:21 pm    Onderwerp: Reageren met citaat

The News section is "read only" for announcements and such, but its ok to post reactions here.

To your questions:

1. The Yoke is a replica of the real one and will simulate the functions of the real one. The real one doesnt have a hat switch, so neither will ours.

2. Yes the unit can be used stand alone. The column and base are full metal, so very solid.

3. Yes, the yoke can be used with any aircraft within FS

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BerichtGeplaatst: Wo Nov 15, 2006 6:27 pm    Onderwerp: Reageren met citaat

Can the stand alone unit, become dual linked at later stage (upgrade) or they are 2 different products?

Will you release a floor base to allow mounting this yokes and rudders?
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BerichtGeplaatst: Wo Nov 15, 2006 7:33 pm    Onderwerp: Reageren met citaat

They can be upgraded later to a dual linked system.

The column comes with a metal base. Connection to the floor has to be done by the end user since we can not know how high your platform/floor is.

We will state minimum requirements regarding hight of your floor/platform.

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BerichtGeplaatst: Wo Nov 15, 2006 9:03 pm    Onderwerp: Reageren met citaat

Engravity_Support schreef:
1. The Yoke is a replica of the real one and will simulate the functions of the real one. The real one doesnt have a hat switch, so neither will ours.


Then how am I supposed to look outside the cockpit when turning corners? I totally agree with you that the yoke has to be a replica of the real one, but in FS we have some limitations. And there are users (including me) that use the 2D cockpit instead of the virtual cockpit.

Is it possible to program the "hat switch view functions" to the buttons that are available on the replica?
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BerichtGeplaatst: Wo Nov 15, 2006 9:28 pm    Onderwerp: Reageren met citaat

Allthough the switches could be made programmable that still wouldnt leave much room for the hatswitch.
Switch functionality will be as on the real 737 (mic, ap disconnect, trim, etc).

If we put on a hatswitch it wouldnt be a 737 yoke anymore and thats what we make.

There is plenty of alternatives like the IR tracker. If you are not really looking for 737 replica's there are alternative columns WITH hatswitch.

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BerichtGeplaatst: Wo Nov 15, 2006 10:16 pm    Onderwerp: Reageren met citaat

The hat switch can easily be placed elsewhere - it doesnt need to sit on the control yoke!

Remember that these guys make products for HOME SIMULATOR BUILDERS. Thus, the control column are made so it resembles the real deal. "Desktop pilots" have other needs, and i doubt these guys focuses too much on that...

Please correct me if I'm wrong, guys!
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BerichtGeplaatst: Wo Nov 15, 2006 10:27 pm    Onderwerp: Reageren met citaat

Ofcourse we also serve "desktop" simmers, hence the older desktop kits and the cdu is also used by many desktop flyers, hence the compatibility of our CDU with the PMDG and Level-D software.

However the Control Column is part of the Performance line, which is primairily aimed at full scale flightdecks. With the Performance line we try to be as detailed and genuine as possible, therefore no compromises will be made to the controll column.

I have looked to some low cost alternatives for Kingkat and discovered that hat switches are for sale in electronic stores. You could easily wire a hat switch to a game port or an old usb joystick or a usb axes card and configure the extra axes to the hatswitch function within FS.
You could place that extra hatswitch where ever you like.

Ofcourse you could also use the keyboard Wink

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BerichtGeplaatst: Wo Nov 15, 2006 11:27 pm    Onderwerp: Reageren met citaat

Now I have just 3 more questions and then I have enough information for my decision whether to buy or not to buy:

1. How do I connect the yoke to my computer?
2. Does the yoke use a separate power adapter for the electrics?
3. Does the yoke require any special software or drivers?

If I would decide to buy the yoke, then I want to use it with Wilco's 737 Pilot in Command and PMDG. You already said that the yoke is compatible with any airplane in FS, so I guess that the yoke is recognized in Windows as a Windows controller (joystick)?
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BerichtGeplaatst: Wo Nov 15, 2006 11:38 pm    Onderwerp: Reageren met citaat

First of, the control column is not for sale yet, expected release is <as said in the announcement> Q1 2007 (read: spring). The control column is aimed at the high end market.

And to answer your questions:

1. USB
2. Yes, will be supplied, the motors need their own power supply
3. Yes, because FS only outputs force feed back for a joystick. We dont want force feedback, we want simulated control forces, something completely different.

Yes, the control column will be recognized by FS.
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BerichtGeplaatst: Wo Nov 15, 2006 11:45 pm    Onderwerp: Reageren met citaat

I'm aware that the yoke is not for sale yet, and that it will be expensive.

But if it becomes available, I will most likely order one.

Thanks for your quick response.

Happy holidays. Smile
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BerichtGeplaatst: Wo Nov 22, 2006 11:28 pm    Onderwerp: Reageren met citaat

The column can be used by desktop simmers, right? Because I was also planning on buying the CDU to go with it.
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BerichtGeplaatst: Wo Nov 22, 2006 11:50 pm    Onderwerp: Reageren met citaat

Yes it can be used by desktop simmers. USB, plug and play.
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BerichtGeplaatst: Vr Dec 01, 2006 2:30 am    Onderwerp: Reageren met citaat

Will the control colum responds to pitch trim settings? so if i trim the aircraft the yoke stay in it's new central position?
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BerichtGeplaatst: Vr Dec 01, 2006 2:42 pm    Onderwerp: Reageren met citaat

And an additional question about a small detail of the yoke Wink

On the pictures provided in the news forum one can clearly see the checklist board on the yoke. However I cannot see a holder for Jeppersen charts which is usually atop of the checklist board...

Would be a shame if this small detail would be missing, since it shouldn't increase the costs of the yoke by much Wink
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